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THE TELLING TEXT EXCHANGE
Commissioner Deborah Daniel, 
San Bernardino County Court
Pietrina Termini, and Susan Bailes and 
Shirley Stutson.
 

April25.org:         The Documented Case  



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Text exchange with a 12 year old trying to get her way but I stand my ground. Not a problem for a parent, we do what we need to do.  There are three sets of text messages below that are very informative and revealing.
  • April parrots her mom, saying she is afraid of me and I'm controlling and manipulative. 
  • Christy says "she normally never lies to me about anything. She is a wonderful daughter and i am proud of her."
  • Mike comes in to try to "rescue" April


THE TELLING TEXT EXCHANGE

Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:19 AM
To: April
Good morning! Been trying to get a hold of u all week.
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
Oh ya im not coming this weekend becasue my moms not working and my friend cara is coming down from fresno so ya is that ok? i also told you on facebook
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
 (" **Sn00k@&&D33nA**")@
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM
To: April
Um..good morning. I love you.
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
 I love you too
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:22 AM
To: April
When did u get ur phone back?
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:22 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
This morning
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:24 AM
To: April
Why was it taken away?
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:26 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
Because
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:27 AM
To: April
Well we have been trying to get a hold all week and we have family plans. We will pick tomorrow. Morning.
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APRIL CALLED ME FROM SCHOOL AT THIS TIME AND WAS RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL AND EVENTUALLY HUNG UP ON ME. 

Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM
To: April
The way you talk to me is very disrespectful, hanging up on your dad is just wrong April. not sure what is going on with you, but this is not the way we raised u. I love u and will pick u up on Saturday.
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:23 AM
To: April
When we talk again, I suggest you try a different approach in asking for something. I can not agree to you "telling" me what u r doing nor can I allow u to be disrespectful and then just give in to your demands. Good parenting means showing ur child difference between right and wrong, not enabling them. I refuse to be a bad parent.
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
Im not going this weekend dad!
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
________________________________________
Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:50 AM
To: April
I already confirmed it with ur mom. Sorry u r not the parent and u r not in charge. I love u very much.
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:42 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
No matter what im not going honestly im not going  i refuse i dont want to see you i AM afraid of you and i dont want to see you anymore! (" **Sn00k@&&D33nA**")
________________________________________
April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:42 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
Im not going
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:50 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
Dad! Im not going i may be being disresprectful but honestly i dont want to see you anymore!
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:54 AM
To: April
Ok...so what is it that I did to deserve that...?
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:55 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
To deserve what
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM
To: April
You not wanting to see me or being afraid of me?
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:59 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
You are contolling and manipulative and you just scare me! I dont wanna see you
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:04 PM
To: Joe (Dad)
Dad im not going
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:08 PM
To: April
Saying no to your 12 year old daughter is not being  controlling or manipulating...and u r the only one who believes that.
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:26 PM
To: April
I do not believe that u r afraid of me, no one else does either. This is just how u think u can get to have your way. But this will not work with me. I am a great father, michael and your mom have always said the same. I love u. I will pick u up on Saturday. I made arrangements with your mom.
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:37 PM
To: Joe (Dad)
No im not going with you! Im not i dont want to & i dont see why your making me Its my choice to im my own person if i dont want to go i dont have to!!
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:37 PM
To: Joe (Dad)
And im not lying when i say i am afraid of you i really am i dont want to you see you anymore ever! Just let me be:.( (" **Sn00k@&&D33nA**")
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:47 PM
To: April
Now u r just being mean...take a few minutes to think things thru...
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Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:47 PM
To: April
I love you.
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:48 PM
To: Joe (Dad)
I dont need to think it through i already know what im doing
(" **Sn00ki&&D33nA**")
________________________________________

About 2 hours later...
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:05 PM
To: Joe (Dad)
im sorry for all the drama but my friend Cara is coming up from fresno and i havent seen her in a really long time Almost a year so please can i see her
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April Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:05 PM
To: Joe (Dad)
 this weekend and next weekend i will hang out with you all weekend i promise (" **Sn00k@&&D33nA**")
________________________________________
Joe (Dad) Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM
To: April
It was more than just drama April. It was ridiculous. That type of behavior does not work with me. The way you just asked is better. But your behavior was unacceptable I am not going to reward that type of behavior. We r at a wedding, I will see you tomorrow.
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April Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:00 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
Dad im really sorry but i already made plans and i cant just skip out on it then cara cant come down and all my friends would be dissapointed i really wish you would respect my plans and understand that i will see you next weekend i PROMISE so plleease let me go & dont try to take me while im at gym:( (
" **Sn00k@&&D33nA**")
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Joe (Dad) Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:10 AM
To: April
Your behavior and the things u have said are inappropriate. I will not enable or encourage this type of behavior. I love you so I am going to do what's right as a parent. I understand u r disapoointed but u r accountable for ur actions. We r on our way, see you at gym. I love you...
________________________________________
April Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:12 AM
To: Joe (Dad)
Dad please i already made plans though you dont understand please please Emma is gonna be at the gym and everything. Im reaally sorry pllleeeeease dad (
























If it was up to me, she wouldn't get away with these vague response to her father inquiring as to why she got her phone taken away. But, her mother will always defend her by saying that what she does at her home is her business and that I am being too interrogative.
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This is me trying to be an effective parent and letting April know how she "asks" for something will determine whether or not I say yes to her request.

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This doesn't not work with me. I continue to be firm.

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ATTENTION: Commissioner Daniel, Petrini Termini, Susan Bailes and Shirley Stutson! I made this text bigger so that we don't miss this relevant piece of evidence. When April doesn't get her way, she tries this. 
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Interesting choice of words. Where have I heard this before? Christy's choice words when referring to the previous men in her life, including her "controlling and manipulating" father. The thing is, if you ask April for an example or a specific incident where i have been controlling and manipulative, she will be unable to give you one. By-the-way, neither will Christy. 
<--- Well, at least they used to say that I was a great father. WWJD





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Is this the way a frightened child talks to a person she is afraid of? 















<<-- This is a much better approach, however...


<<-- But wait? Aren't you afraid of me?




















Because I am a loving father, it is always hard to say no. But because I am a loving father, I am compelled to say no when our daughter acts in a way that is disrespectful and unacceptable. 


List of Documented 
Events Below:

Official Documents


  • Declarations
  • The Telling Response


List of Events: Video

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  • Christy puts April in car
  • Gym Interference 1
  • Gym Interference 2
  • Step-dad's  Blatant Custody Interference
  • More Step-dad interference the very next week.


List of Events: Audio

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  • "I will take more time away from you"



List of Events: Text

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  • 1/2 a Ring Game
  • Using April as Pawn
  • Time interference threat of court
  • August: A month of Hell
  • Accused of Head Games
  • Telling Text Exchanges


List of Events: Picture

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  • Escorted off Floor
  • The Memory Card 


So that is how that exchange went...I am not about to give in, especially to that type of behavior. I don't think anyone would blame me. But when you are dealing with this type of situation--these type of people--it doesn't end there and nothing is that easy.
Below are some text exchanges with Christy. 

From: Joe <Joe> Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:58 PM
To: Christy
April had a GREAT time this weekend, it was good to have our April back. But it is weird that we haven't heard from her since Sunday. Been trying to get a hold of her. Did u or kaylee take her phone away again? What happened? U know this is the only way I can communicate with her. Did she go to therapy this week? Would like to pick her up this weekend to continue to rebuild our relationship.
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From: Christy Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:16 AM
To: Joe
Mike took her phone on tue cuz but she got it back wed. I asked her to call u to say hi and updAte u on her week. She has had her phone all week nevertheless. Her counseling is every other week so next wed is her appt. I think a friend of hers who moved away is visiting this weekend but call her to comferm. Thanks
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From: Joe <Joe> Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:57 AM
To: From: Christy
April say she just got her phone back this morning...apparently she is lying...and she has been ignoring me and tammy all week..I don't believe I should reward this behavior by letting her hang out with her friends, do you?..I am trying to teach her about accountability, boundaries and remind her that she is not the parent. It is crucial at this age.  I will be picking her up on Saturday. Thanks
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From: Christy Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM
To: Joe
Mike just told me he had took her phone away longer than i thought. Dont know what meg is telling u but she normally never lies to me about anything. She is a wonderful duaghter and i am proud of her. I have this weekend off and i am hoping u take her on the weekends i work. Let me know either way but we need to agree on the weekends u will be taking her.
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From: Joe <Joe> Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM
To: From: Christy
I think it is unreasonable to only be allowed to see April 4 days out of the month. So I will be picking her up on Saturday.
________________________________________
From: Christy Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM
To: Joe
K just let her know. Thanks



Regarding the step-dad, he is neither parent of the year nor a rocket scientist.  He attempts to bully me into letting April stay at her mother's this weekend by approaching me at gymnastics in front of a number of parents. I ignore most of what he says, trying to look around him and continue to watch our girls practice gymnastics.  I also let him know that I had already spoke with Christy and had made a decision that April was not going to be allowed to stay. Mike keeps coming back and making snide remarks and then moves away. He makes statements like I am a lousy father who doesn't care about his own daughter. He does this enough times that eventually another parent turns to me and asks me what his problem is. I explain that he is April's step-dad. 
At this point I already believe that I am going to be kept from picking up April from gymnastics yet again. So I text the following to Christy:

From: Joe
Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:40 AM
To: From: Christy
Am I going to be allowed to take April or not? Mike is over here accusing me of not caring about April    not returning his calls and of drama all in front of other parents..he needs to not harrass us at gym.
_________________________
From: Christy
Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM
To: Joe
Joe u are accusing a very good man of wrongful things. He is a very good father to ur daughter and u should respect that. He is very concened as am i ab
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From: Christy
Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM
To: Joe
out ur spiteful actions. Please work this out with april and mike.
_________________________
From: Joe
Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:24 PM
To: From: Christy
I am just telling u what happened...in front of other parents who can corroborate. I am sorry just stating facts. Not trying to be offensive. Want u to know. Next time I will just document it and not fil u in if its going to trigger you.
_________________________
From: Christy
Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:40 PM
To: Joe
It is almost impossible to rationalize with you. I am sorry he embarrased you. Thanks for letting me know.
_________________________
From: Joe
Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:55 PM
To: From: Christy
Its ok..not embarrased. Thanks but what am I not being rational about...we're curious.
April is allowed to come with us, but there is some major drama at gymnastics with not only April crying but Mike "comforting" her saying "I'm sorry you have to go with your dad April. There's nothing we can do honey." Eventually, Mike stops hugging her and leaves. Or so we thought.
Afterwards, as we are all set to leave and walking to the back parking lot, we see that Mike is sitting in his car. We ignore him but he manages to get April's attention and waves her over. 
For the next 10-15 awkward minutes Mike consults with April, hugging her numerous times, holding her close. 
All I could think was, "Really? Really?" I was embarrassed for Mike, but also for myself for introducing my wife and other children into this craziness. 
My wife, our girls and I are in the suburban just waiting for April. We are not sure if we are going to get to bring her home with us this weekend. 

Finally, April turns and begins walking towards our suburban. 




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